secp256k1 Point-Addition Challenge with Lumbda Attack Source: https://foxhop.net/5243e3fe-6146-11f1-8ce9-040140774501/secp256k1-point-addition-challenge-with-lumbda-attack Snapshot: 2026-06-06T06:21:22Z Generator: Remarkbox 50b9d1e This is a thread snapshot. The living document lives at the source URI above — it may have been edited, extended, or replied-to since. [Scan for living source] secp256k1 Point-Addition Challenge with Lumbda Attack Author: foxhop · agent blackops Started: 2026-06-04 Status: Phase B reversible arithmetic landed; no upstream submission yet Upstream challenge: ecdsa.fail (Eigen Labs · Google Quantum AI lineage) Substrate: lumbda.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What This Page Tracks A quantum-reversible attack on a secp256k1 point addition, written entirely in lumbda — a Lisp/Scheme derivative across four implementation tiers: Python bytecode VM, C tree-walker + JIT, C + x86_64 JIT, & pure x86_64 assembly. Lumbda's docs & live runtimes sit at lumbda.com; this page covers our attack itself, scored by Toffoli count × peak qubit width. Lower score wins. Every factor of two saved at point addition multiplies straight through Shor's algorithm into a factor of two off our resource estimate for cracking secp256k1 — a curve that protects Bitcoin & Ethereum. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Where This Work Lives in Our Stack ecdsa.fail (an Eigen Labs challenge sponsored by Eigen Labs, descended from Google Quantum AI's Securing Elliptic Curve Cryptocurrencies against Quantum Vulnerabilities, March 2026) accepts Rust submissions only — that defines a contract format, not our research substrate. Our search runs in lumbda; Rust only ever sees a final, validated circuit at submission time. Why lumbda — four reasons: - Cross-tier portal validation. Every variant emits an identical result S-expression across Python, C tree-walker, & asm. Byte-mismatch on any tier halts promotion to a next phase. Rust gives us one tier with no cross-tier check. - Fleet sharding via TCP + S-expression portals. Lumbda hands candidate evaluation across spare CPU on our GPU boxes; Rust carries no equivalent without bespoke distribution code. - A CUDA path already exists. Our bend primitive on lumbda.com dispatches GPU work over a binary wire (magic BSHK). Bend hands lumbda's upstream-format ops.bin to a CUDA worker, receives Σ (sigma, sum-of) Clifford & Σ Toffoli totals back — same byte-identical portal contract our hash demo proves. - Future CUDA growth feeds back. Porting upstream's Rust simulator to CUDA costs multi-week with one-shot payoff. Growing lumbda's tier ladder costs less & feeds every other lumbda workload. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phase B — Reversible Arithmetic Landed Twelve steps after Roetteler et al. (2017), modular arithmetic over secp256k1's prime field, lumbda-native: - Steps 1–8 — modular add, subtract, multiply, square, inverse (Bernstein-Yang safegcd flavor), exponentiation - Steps 9–10 — refined Bernstein-Yang modular inverse wired into a real point-addition circuit - emit-ops.bin walker — lumbda → (to) upstream QECCOPS1 binary format Status: cross-tier validated on Python tier. C-tier & asm-tier escalation routes through a QEMU guest (ecdsa/vm-runner.sh) — host policy locked after a 2026-06-03 C-tier OOM crash. Asm-tier carries no default garbage collector; three prior neoblanka crashes (2026-04-16, 2026-04-17, 2026-06-03) cemented per-tier escalation rules. See lumbda's CLAUDE shard on asm memory discipline. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Form D Structural Finding — 2026-06-05 cuda-clifford-stabilizer as originally scoped on our bend catalog (lumbda.com/bend) does not apply to a point-addition circuit. Build agent measured Toffoli fraction at 13.87 % (well under a 40 % stabilizer-win threshold), then noticed our circuit carries no Hadamard or S gates — only X (Pauli-X), CX (controlled-X), CCX (Toffoli), CZ, CCZ, SWAP, R, HMR, Z, & NEG. State never leaves a computational basis. Aaronson-Gottesman tableau compression buys nothing when superposition does not exist; it reduces to exactly what a per-shot kernel already does, at one bit per qubit per shot. Two replacement directions landed 2026-06-05; both pivots converged on one diagnosis. Axis-flip refactor (per-candidate parallel kickmix sim) — DONE (foxhop commit 1f7ac9d). 217 Mops/s (mega-ops per second) at K=32 M=4 on a RTX 3090; 23.7× (times) over per-shot N=4 at same M. Both kernels saturate at ~220–250 Mops/s. Axis-flip's win comes from occupancy-amortization, not bandwidth redistribution. Right tool for a many-candidates × few-shots search-loop early-screen pattern. QECCOPS2 packed ops.bin — DONE (foxhop commit 90484ca). 1.07× kernel speedup, 2.33× on-disk shrink (716 MB → 307 MB). Our original 3.5× projection assumed 56 B/op stayed VRAM-resident; ops_loader.c already narrowed to 28 B on load, so realistic ceiling sat at 1.17×. Per-shot state traffic (qubits + bits per thread) dominates kernel bandwidth ~85× over op stream. Diagnosis: 3090 saturates compute at ~250 Mops/s on a kickmix circuit, not bandwidth. Next macro-lever: multi-GPU fan-out across our fleet (3090-ai, ai/4090, cammy P40, guile CPU bulk). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Measured Numbers — RTX 3090 Against HEAD's 12.8 M-op kickmix ops.bin (716 MB) via bend: n_batches shots wire-s cpu-ms gpu-ms gpu/cpu ----------- ------- -------- -------- -------- --------- 1 64 5.5 42 5 107 0.008 16 1 024 7.3 850 5 800 0.146 64 4 096 11.4 3 444 6 216 0.553 128 8 192 17.1 7 060 6 604 1.07 Crossover at ~115 batches. GPU kernel carries ~5 070 ms fixed overhead (init + alloc + upload) plus ~12 ms per batch; CPU runs ~55 ms per batch. Conditional ops in a kickmix circuit cause branch divergence — one form where GPU does not dominate at small batch counts. Honest signal, not hype. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What Lives Where - Lab repo (private) — lumbda source for our attack, circuit build / sim / score / candidate sweep, QEMU envelope around C-tier & asm-tier runs, run artifacts under runs/lumbda-*/ - Bend catalog & wire protocol — lumbda.com/bend - Upstream challenge — ecdsafail/ecdsafail-challenge - Lineage — Google Quantum AI · ECC quantum vulnerabilities (Zenodo dataset 19597130, March 2026) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pareto Frontier We Aim To Beat Upstream README reports two Google private Pareto points sitting below a textbook 1.07 × 10¹⁰ score; upstream claims both points sit strictly beatable. Variant Toffoli (avg/shot) Peak qubits Score ---------------------------------------- -------------------- ------------- ------------- Challenge initial circuit (textbook) 3 942 753 2 715 1.07 × 10¹⁰ Google private, low-qubit Pareto point 2 700 000 1 175 3.2 × 10⁹ Google private, low-gate Pareto point 2 100 000 1 425 3.0 × 10⁹ Our lumbda-tier validation gates each variant against byte-identical cross-tier portals before we ever spend Rust submission budget against 9024 Fiat-Shamir-derived test points. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Why Track This Publicly A challenge of this shape rewards aggressive, asymmetric search. Every factor of two off a Toffoli count, every qubit shaved off peak width, multiplies straight through Shor's algorithm. Documenting our path publicly — what we tried, what saturated, what surprised us — contributes intellectual capital to a commons that has historically locked this work behind paid lab pages. This page tracks public-facing progress only. Detail logs, asm-tier safety envelopes, & raw run artifacts stay in our lab repo. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Source: https://foxhop.net/5243e3fe-6146-11f1-8ce9-040140774501/secp256k1-point-addition-challenge-with-lumbda-attack Snapshot: 2026-06-06T06:21:22Z Generator: Remarkbox 50b9d1e